Modified 3.0 MoC: Mydei E0S1, RTB E6, Sunday E0 (Bronya's) S1, Huohuo E0S0 vs Agleae E0S1, RTB E6, Sunday (same), Huohuo E0S0 vs The Herta E0S1, Tribbie E0S0, Serval E6, Gallagher E6 Showcases 2:49 / 14:04 Source: @RappaRail's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKNHYR1aPvk **Important note: "The Boss of this MoC has the same resistance for all the elements."** - Agleae team: 2 cycles - Mydei team: 3 cycles - The Herta team: 2 cycles The original video's length is longer than the 15-minute limitation so I sped up Agleae & THerta's parts. Sped up version's timestamps: - 02:54: Mydei showcase - 13:41: builds Upvote 189 Downvote 296 Go to comments Share Share u/Grammarly avatar Grammarly • Official • Promoted With just a couple of clicks, Grammarly takes whatever’s on the tip of your tongue and turns it into sentences—helping you create thoughtful email replies, content, and upvote-worthy Reddit posts instantly. Try it for free now. Download grammarly.com Thumbnail image: With just a couple of clicks, Grammarly takes whatever’s on the tip of your tongue and turns it into sentences—helping you create thoughtful email replies, content, and upvote-worthy Reddit posts instantly. Try it for free now. Add a comment Sort by: Best Search Comments Expand comment search Comments Section AutoModerator MOD • 6h ago • Stickied comment Ashamed_Olive_2711 • 5h ago So what I’m reading here is that Aglaea actually had the most impressive performance. Mydei is just her, but functionally worse unless you invest into an E2 or something, so with that it becomes Aglaea v Herta. Herta had a more favorable scenario with this boss being catered towards AOE, and with the modifications, Tribbie’s Res Pen buff was artificially boosted in power from 24% DPS increase up to a 30% DPS increase. Despite that Aglaea still had more ample overkill compared to Herta. This does come at the caviot of 3 vs 4 cost, but I truly think a Lingsha or Huo Huo instead of Gall wouldn’t have made much of a difference for Herta. Of course this will probably change if Anaxa leaks end up being true, but so far for the average player Aglaea still looks like the #1 DPS so far in MoC. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/United-Impression789 avatar United-Impression789 • 4h ago Mydei is still with eidolons because before E6 you don't have any way to truly increase your single target damage. His E2 make him a pseudo erudition unit but at E2 ... both Herta and Aglaea obliterate him by an insane degree. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Negative-Ad9372 • 4h ago Yeah aglaea is the 1 dps in MOC (for now),Herta is strong but aglaea have a higher ceiling and don’t depend of the content ( AOE). People don’t talk about this bc she is less popular compared to herta and some people think damage by screenshots is everything. for Herta Gallagher is the best option there because this team is very SP negative Herta need to spam skill , Serval need to skill for on turn ult , I don’t think Lingsha will be better. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/CryoStrange avatar CryoStrange • 3h ago emoji:sparkle_3: Oh Aglaea bits, you must be 'ungry emoji:robin_3: Also people underestimate Aglaea gameplay a lot. She can abuse buffs because of her speed and frequency of attacks it is very different from every character gameplay. She also joint attack which triggers Tribbie true damage trigger twice. She is really good with many supports I just hope we get a Energy buffer in 4 stars too like Tingyun. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Bulky-Locksmith-9962 avatar Bulky-Locksmith-9962 • 2h ago She can abuse buffs only buffs that trickles down on anything that is not her turn. She's by far the best abuser of Nihilities and Robin/Tribble. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share wwweeeiii • 3h ago Problem is we have so many strong electro dps Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/EternalDeath avatar EternalDeath • 3h ago I mean, we already have JY, Kafka and Acheron for lightning so i understand why people dont talk about her as much. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Adorable_Ad_3478 avatar Adorable_Ad_3478 • 3h ago Lingsha only works for The Herta if the Erudition is Jade (SP Positive). Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Rulle4 avatar Rulle4 • 1h ago i always seen aglaea as the clear strongest dps but I dont expect it to last for more than 2 patches and her BiS team is too high value compared to acheron (other strong lightning dps) and herta (other 3.0 dps) for example which is part of why im in the not considering pulling her camp Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/SexWithFeiXiaos avatar SexWithFeiXiaos • 4h ago Herta is an Erudition character. As long as theres AOE, She will be in the top, While in ST, her performance will drop significally (primilay bcs that would cause her to gain low amount of energy). Remember, the new Boss does spawn small doppelganger of himself which help her (and other Erudition) to Reach stupid numbers. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 11 more replies u/MyPeeledPotatoe avatar MyPeeledPotatoe • 5h ago emoji:robin_3: ♪ Two birds on a wire ♪ emoji:sunday_1: I just noticed Garmentmaker also gets the halo from Sunday. It looks so good Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Competitive-Bus-8764 avatar Competitive-Bus-8764 • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago People are overly concerned about Mydei powercreeping The Herta, even though it's been proven wrong several times already. On top of that, she's also getting shilled in a few patches because they'll turn Anaxa into her slave just like what they did to Jiaoqiu for Acheron. But of course, no one will complain since it's a waifu, lol. Meanwhile Mydei is stuck with zero dedicated support and can't even compete with the units that came before him. But sure, he's the one speeding up the powercreep problem. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/CryoStrange avatar CryoStrange • 3h ago emoji:sparkle_3: Oh Aglaea bits, you must be 'ungry emoji:robin_3: Yeah I dont want Anaxa to be only Herta bot. I want him to be his own thing like Aoe weakness debuffer so like other units benefit more too instead of high aoe frequency of attacks so he works with Herta only. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Wolgran • 5h ago • Edited 4h ago emoji:herta_1: The answer is 42, you fool! emoji:herta_2: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter Meanwhile Mydei is stuck with zero dedicated support and can't even compete with the units that came before him Come on, why is people saying he is overpowered on one side, and others saying he is suffering on the other side....Im the only one who think V3 left him at a perfect spot? All his gameplay problems i had a beef with where resolved(besides Auto) like the 50% AA becoming a extra turn, and he not losing the buffs when dying, he just need supports, this showcase dont even have Tribbie, also theres a remembrance healer coming, he will be fine. Jiaoqiu is getting a new contender on the betas with the worst discussions (no one is Dethroning the king of fire and salt tho) Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share ButterscotchDue4299 • 4h ago emoji:boothill_5: emoji:jing_yuan_2: emoji:robin_3: emoji:sunday_1: I don’t believe he is in a good spot. He only has one mode where he can really thrive in and that’s MOC and here we can see both Herta/Aglaea are great at that too and also great in PF/AS. At least remove the auto targeting so he can be great in AS too and I’ll stop complaining. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 16 more replies u/Adorable_Ad_3478 avatar Adorable_Ad_3478 • 3h ago Mydei is balanced. The main complaint is that he's still weaker than Aglea in ALL scenarios and weaker than The Herta in AOE. The last part is expected. But he should be at least better than Aglea in 1 scenario (Single Target?). It's really bad that he's worse than her in every single situation. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 7 more replies u/Competitive-Bus-8764 avatar Competitive-Bus-8764 • 4h ago Overpowered in what sense? He can't even target enemies with his skill so he's going to be useless in Apoc Shadow once it no longer offers HP buffs. His solution is offered in E2 but it doesn't even include Kingslayer be King so he still has targeting issues. They also nerfed his aggro which is bad for a character that wants to be hit to charge his attacks. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Wolgran • 4h ago • Edited 4h ago emoji:herta_1: The answer is 42, you fool! emoji:herta_2: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter Im not calling him overpowered, but people been saying this for the past week since V3, im actually calling it out this claims because i dont agree. They nerfed his aggro??? ok they do have something to do on V4 then, bring it back, wth... i already gave up on them getting rid of the auto tho, they clearly want this to be his "quirky mechanic", that is solvable with a minor price....of E2...typical hoyo Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/AverageCapybas avatar AverageCapybas • 4h ago They nerfed his aggro??? Kinda. He used to have a Taunt in Technique and Ult with a 1 turn duration each and 100% base chance to activate, but his talent increased his aggro by 500%. Now, the aggro increase was removed, but both Tech and Ult now have 2 turns duration and are forced (enemies can not resist it anymore). Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Yashwant111 • 1h ago No, we don't want mydei just to be a balanced or normal character. Why should waifus only get the broken treatment? For once I want mydei to have that, they already sacrificed most to imaginary element, half to shill Waifu dps. Absolutely not, I am unabashed when I say, I want mydei to completely trounce agalea and Herta. TROUNCE And you can quote me on that. The game Devs don't give two shits about their game, it's balance or it's future. So you certainly won't see me, give a fuck either. Sorry not sorry. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 43 more replies GothicOwl13 • 5h ago Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter "INsANe PoWErCReeP" "I aM WorRieD abOUt ThiS GAmE's fUtUre" Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/Vongola1750 avatar Vongola1750 • 4h ago emoji:screwllum_1: Old Thinker I can only wonder on what heights of mental gymnastics some people had to get on this sub to spew bullcrap like Mydei powercreeping anything with him being elevated to being barely ok in V3 damagewise and still locked to auto thus making him basically the least preferable option for any other mode than MoC (of course as always ignoring the fact that next new shiny hoyo waifu and preferably their favorite with personality of drying paint will bee so broken that he will look like a mob in comprison anyway) Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Yashwant111 • 1h ago Amen sister, say it louder for the people in the back Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 3 more replies panula • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago I don't really know what the crowd that's saying Mydei needs nerfs or be reverted back to v1 hopes to accomplish. Like what does 1 mediocre DPS char do to solve powercreep, like congrats we stopped powercreep for 1 patch just to reopen the floodgates for Castorice and Phainon lol. If the anniversary character followed the steps of a potentially nerfed Mydei, lets be real the community would be pissed (I mean I would because I plan on pulling her) Also if powercreep was an issue HYV would've addressed it with Acheron. Instead they just kept releasing DPS chars and Lingsha that 1-upped each other in some way shape or form (except Jade but Jade lowkey is probably the most balanced modern DPS imo, also Boothill) Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/OcelotButBetter avatar OcelotButBetter • 5h ago Yeah people really should chill about Mydei being powercreep. It's a bit annoying, since Herta just released without any dedicated support and is already sitting comfortably at the top of the tierlist, yet nobody was complaining. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Dangerous-Fold-4038 avatar Dangerous-Fold-4038 • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago You must be new if you think nobody complained about her being powercreep. Literally every character released since acheron has got powercreep complaints. No matter if they were right or wrong. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Idcjustwins • 5h ago It's either power creep or doomposting, herta is power creep, aglaea is doomposting as far as I've seen, lingsha was doom posted, rappa was doom posted/hate posted, mydei was doom posted but now he's power creep. I think the only character that I didn't see people getting angry about was yunli in recent times? But I probably am misremembering Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/JumpingVillage3 avatar JumpingVillage3 • 5h ago Yunli was completely and utterly overshadowed by the amount of hate and shitflinging that was happening around Jiaoqiu. I think the most Yunli got was "so why is she not fire?" And "how much better is she really over Clara?" Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/AnAussiebum avatar AnAussiebum • 4h ago Yunli got some hate for two things - 'she is just Clara 2.0 so unoriginal. Could at least give her a different element' AND 'another girl with barefoot- so icky'. Her power wasn't really part of the toxic debate around her. So I feel like she is was in an ok place because she wasn't really considered powercreep or doomposted bad. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Adorable_Ad_3478 avatar Adorable_Ad_3478 • 3h ago Yunli is the definition of balanced in a game where every new DPS unit is expected to be progressively better than the ones before. Rappa and Mydei are in the same situation. This isn't good overall since the DPS units that came before them are numerically superior. And the DPS units that come after them will be better. So they just become a case of "pull if you like them, skip otherwise". Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/AnAussiebum avatar AnAussiebum • 3h ago BH is also seemingly balanced since he scales off of the enemy. So he seems to always be in a decent spot. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/Dangerous-Fold-4038 avatar Dangerous-Fold-4038 • 5h ago I wasn't too interested in her so I didn't look at too many posts. All I remember is "better Clara". Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Capable_Peak922 • 4h ago For Yunli, well the fact she directly powercreep Clara, a standard unit (it distracting people) + not outwardly powercreep the top units + Jiaoqiu situation make the opinions about her remain neutral. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply ButterscotchDue4299 • 5h ago emoji:boothill_5: emoji:jing_yuan_2: emoji:robin_3: emoji:sunday_1: There were people that complained about powercreep but the top comments were filled with people celebrating she got buff after buff. And the downvoted comments were the ones complaining about powercreep. Even though she was already very strong in earlier versions. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Greedy_Ad_904 avatar Greedy_Ad_904 • 2h ago And the people who were calling out the the power creep weren’t even the same ppl now saying there were actually ppl talking about power creep, THEY were the ones celebrating it Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Dangerous-Fold-4038 avatar Dangerous-Fold-4038 • 5h ago This, you might not have seen them if you weren't looking or early enough in a post but they are in fact there. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Jonyx25 avatar Jonyx25 • 1h ago 12 doses of Anaxacillin Oh yeah. I remember the final versions in this sub. Barely any complaints with the last minute buffs lmao. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Capable_Peak922 • 5h ago When a waifu get complaints, those are not complaints. That is the only way to explain why some people really think madam did not get any complaints back then, and right now. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Darvasi2500 avatar Darvasi2500 • 5h ago Cipher🙏 Save the dot society 🙏 You think people care about facts? This is about agenda-posting. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/Ghertrude avatar Ghertrude • 5h ago sunday's bomb ass cloaca emoji:sunday_1: emoji:sunday_1: But I thought they said Mydei was the one causing significant powercreep🤭 Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share raexi • 5h ago Feixiao's pillow princess I love your flair Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/PCBS01 avatar PCBS01 • 3h ago If he's not stronger than Agalea can they remove the fucking auto-targetting? Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share tunatoogood • 5h ago On god he needs a buff. He's unplayable in Apocalyptic Shadow with his auto targetting and prob mid/dependent on buff in pure fiction. SO his only game mode MOC He's not even that that good? A bit crazy if you ask me Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Blasterjan avatar Blasterjan • 4h ago Speaking of MoC imagine if they do another trotter gimmick one again with enemies hp increasing 2x again. Meanwhile Mydei can try to brute force it but since his auto AI will only target the Elites will probably be the most painful experience ever. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 9 more replies u/ColdCashDivine__ avatar ColdCashDivine__ • 5h ago In the powercreep in the room with us, people in the sub told me Mydei broke Herta and Agleae ankles, and he was the best DPS in the game Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/ExtensionFun7285 avatar ExtensionFun7285 • 5h ago i like scythes emoji:seele_2: But it should be considered that this boss really likes herta and aglaea, though. (I fear of what castorice is gonna be) Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/United-Impression789 avatar United-Impression789 • 4h ago It should be considered than Herta performance will increase DRASTICALLY with the release of Anaxa while Mydei will be immediatly benched out by Castorice release that will use the same supports as him but way better because she is a remembrance unit. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Silent_Map_8182 avatar Silent_Map_8182 • 4h ago Do we even know what Anaxa does Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share lovely_growth • 4h ago He's an Erudition unit and when he's releasing this close to The Herta... yeah he's gonna be her support, it's just logical Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/GGABueno avatar GGABueno • 4h ago • Edited 4h ago I keep seeing people mentioning these Imaginary comments but I haven't seen a single one myself. Are they from Twitter/YouTube or just the voices in yall's head? Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/kafka_is_my_mommy avatar kafka_is_my_mommy • 5h ago please remove auto in v4 or even e6 i will pay for it to be gone 🙏🙏🙏 Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Sea_Angel05 • 5h ago Where’s the people complaining that “Mydei powercreep bad”? Look here, he lost to both Therta & Aglaea by 1 cycle despite being a newer DPS. Granted, he doesn’t have his BIS team yet but I don’t see y’all complaining when Therta shifted the game balance upon her release. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share ButterscotchDue4299 • 5h ago Therta doesn’t have her BiS team either yet she’s still owning. The bias on this sub goes crazy :D. And people still want to say he’s just as strong as them when they’re both great at PF and AS and he doesn’t do great in those modes Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share ArtemisTheHarbinger • 3h ago Not only that, people were genuinely try to downplay The Herta by saying she was not that strong (and barely better than Acheron), just for the sake of proving Mydei is too strong and V1 was "good enough". Bad faith arguments all around, when all V3 did is making sure he doesn't outright suck (he did suck in V1) Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 4 more replies Diamann • 4h ago • Edited 4h ago Male Quantum & The Holy Trinity Lol, so he barely has bigger "DPS" (Damage Per Screenshot), not to mention uncontrollable targeting, and people completely lose their marbles. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Numerous-Machine-305 • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago Sooo.. were people saying mydei is a extreme powercreep over all other DPS and make the game broken or something? Even THerta is still waiting for her BIS support if Anaxa stuff being erudition is true and that will bump her even further up I think him staying in v3 is fine at his current state and he shouldn’t be reverted back to V1. (Though I still wish auto battle can be erased but I guess hoyo won’t ever get rid of it). Even the first comment on that YouTube video is talking about this powercreep allegation. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Ok_Ability9145 avatar Ok_Ability9145 • 5h ago hsr players and getting baited by DPS numbers (damage per screenshot). lovely pair happened with acheron with people saying she deals 1M damage per turn, happened with THerta AS showcases dealing 2M damage, and now it happened again with mydei's godslayer dealing 1M you'd think they'd learn by now, but I guess only "special" kinds of people fall for bait every single time Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Delicious-Buffalo734 • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago With how much people scream powercreep, I was expecting mydei to be like miyabi or firefly/acheron equivalent that will shift the rest of the other DPS one tier down in the tier list when they debut, Eg. jingliu and DHIL Like how they created T0 or apex tier And man, I feel like mydei auto battle is going to eat him up in the future compare to the other two. There’s no way targeting isn’t important in this game Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Silent_Map_8182 avatar Silent_Map_8182 • 3h ago It's going to screw him over immediately. It doesn't matter how much damage he does now because he will be doing nowhere near as much comparatively in the future. Look at how the "strong but with big downsides" DPS like Jingliu/DHIL have aged. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Vyragami • 4h ago Hehe~ (𓁹󠁘◡𓁹) Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter It's so funny tbh, Aglaea is super speedy and is actually remembrance so she benefits from Sunday a lot. She attacks nonstop alongside her garment so her total damage is comparable if not more than Mydei who had impressive dmg per screenshot but not much frequency since he has to charge Godslayer. Herta is actually similar to him, she has to charge her ult and interpretation for dmg per screenshot, but Hoyo is biased so her damage per screenshot is more ridiculous than Mydei anyway. Plus her ult is recharged by ALLIES' AOE attack compared to Mydei whose charge relies heavily on the ENEMIES attacking him. We know Wind Set is broken, relying on allies is FAR, FAR better than relying on enemies. Enemies had limited amount of attacks/moves, allies can do abuse their AV. Not only that, she ALSO has Tribbie, which benefit her more than Mydei despite both shaping to her Tribbie as their current BIS team. Scenarios where Mydei is better are for imaginary weak and/or fast enemies. Everywhere else... Especially when you have to target something other than the boss? Yeah the auto is a liability. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share scotaloo7 • 5h ago No way people are actually saying this under a showcase without his best team lmao. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 10 more replies u/Rude-Designer7063 avatar Rude-Designer7063 • 5h ago Lacking general's husband Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter The problem here are 2: 1.Mydei's attack frequency is low compared to the other teams and he can't change targets which is a HUGE problem against this boss since you'll prefer attack the towers over the boss. 2. Mydei doesn't have a partner that REALLY benefits him, so he'll have to use what we currently have in stock. He's not weak at all, it's that this isn't really a good match for him Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/lell-ia avatar lell-ia • 5h ago Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter You already got his weakness down well. The fact that he has auto means he's always going to be a step behind Therta and Aglaea, even if he has higher damage (which he doesn't even have now). No point having better damage if it goes into the wrong enemy 🤡. All people need is to realize that yeah maybe screaming powercreep like a madman to a unit that doesn't even do it is a huge fucking joke 😂 Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Numerous-Machine-305 • 5h ago I’m not saying mydei is weak though, I’m asking if mydei is a extreme powercreep over All other DPS that have released so far like what people have claimed. Will he really make the game broken if he’s release in his v3 state? Or should he be reverted to his v1 state? Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Lawliette007 • 5h ago I can't see mydei out dps-ing herta or algae. Especially not herta. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Tigor-e avatar Tigor-e • 5h ago The way people talk here you'd imagine he was out dpsing E6L5 Herta or something like that Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply ButterscotchDue4299 • 5h ago Where is there a good match for him then? MOC is the only mode where he can truly showcase his strengths and even here it’s not great. AS requires him to target specific enemies and he can’t do that bc of his auto targeting. And PF is just not a good mode for him bc he’s destruction. I agree that he’s not weak but he’s definitely not as strong as he should be. ESP after Aglaea and the Herta. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Tigor-e avatar Tigor-e • 5h ago Yeah if you're one of the bajillion people that saved for Herta, gor her E2 and skipped Sunday, there is quite literally nothing Mydei can do to improve your account Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/DirexionETFs avatar DirexionETFs • Promoted Learn About Single Stock 2X Bull or 1X Bear ETFs Targeting GOOGL Learn More direxion.com Clickable image which will reveal the video player: Learn About Single Stock 2X Bull or 1X Bear ETFs Targeting GOOGL Collapse video player u/United-Impression789 avatar United-Impression789 • 4h ago And now you do E2S1 vs E2S1 and i guess that Mydei is at 50% of the DPS of the Herta lol. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/AnAussiebum avatar AnAussiebum • 3h ago My e2 Herta somehow manages to end the fight with too many stacks. Really need to get another AA (Sunday) for her because RMC isn't doing enough for her. 😅 Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/AstrophysicalDecay avatar AstrophysicalDecay • 1h ago E2 Herta really needs AA supports to use all her interpretation stacks. With Tribbie and Anaxa presumably being good batteries, we might need to start building her fast to keep up against good matchups. Slow Herta is probably still fine against worse matchups. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/CogXX avatar CogXX • 5h ago I need more BUFFS HOYOVERSE Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share beethovenftw • 5h ago This is the 3.0 MoC mega shilled towards 5 target AoE (Herta) and energy hungry DPSes (Aglaea and Herta) because it gives 20% energy It's obvious Herta and Aglaea would do better here. Every pillar you kill on the Giver is like 600k extra DMG. Mydei is blast not full AoE, so obviously he'd do worse here. Why not show Jing Yuan too then? He can 2 cycle this. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/leonardopansiere avatar leonardopansiere • 5h ago don't even like him but auto play sucks so bad Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/TheYellowDucKing avatar TheYellowDucKing • 5h ago big contrarian and I’ll say anaxa wont drastically improve herta like what people are coping. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Tigor-e avatar Tigor-e • 5h ago If he is Erudition, Hoyo's designers would have to be clinicaly braindead not to make him a Herta support to boost sales after Castorice, it really is as simple as that Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/TheYellowDucKing avatar TheYellowDucKing • 5h ago I mean he’s obviously will be made to shill hat lady but I think people overestimate how much stronger Acheron got after jiao. No he won’t be the Sunday to JY Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share wolf1460 • 4h ago No they don't. Acheron with and without Jiaoqiu is a different character. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/G_Riel_ avatar G_Riel_ • 5h ago He just needs to help her frequency against 2 or less mobs I guess. Herta needs no help against 3+ targets. If he has a frequency better than jade and lower than Serval, but a damage equal to Jade plus some of the rumored def shred/vulnerability, that's already a good help to Herta. I don't expect him to be a great DPS by himself because he will be more of a Support with good damage, but I think he will be great for a lot of teams. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Fluff-Addict • 4h ago We'll see, Im saving this comment Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 3 more replies Vyragami • 5h ago Hehe~ (𓁹󠁘◡𓁹) Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter Something something Mydei is too much of a powercreep Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Excellent-Diet-1922 • 5h ago So, is Mydei broken or not? In some showcases he easily 0 cycles while in other he's not even close. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Tigor-e avatar Tigor-e • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago He really needs the triple threat, Tribbie S1, Sunday S1 and his own S1, otherwise it's... not really gonna be super impressive for an average player. I agree in that specific price range he needs less effort than the two from 3.0 but they just have better Eidolons past the 'just get S1' point Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/lell-ia avatar lell-ia • 5h ago Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter He is not, people are just being hysterical for no reason lol. Think of it as the Sunday beta. Even if Mydei's damage is higher than the two of them, he'd always be behind them for the sole virtue of his amazing mechanic....the incredible forced-auto /s No point having better damage when you can't even hit the right enemy. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share HeroboyGeo • 5h ago Still think that only Godlayer should have automatic and kinglayer should have a random additional damage instead of being automatic Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/lell-ia avatar lell-ia • 5h ago Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter Top 1% Commenter They really should at least remove the auto from Kingslayer. They can keep the auto on Godslayer to bait for his E2, let it be a pseudo FUA. People are not realizing that his auto really bad and is going to bite him in the ass as soon as the boss doesn't shill him anymore. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/GyRNi avatar GyRNi • 5h ago • Edited 4h ago From what I've seen, it's dependent on player skill/setup (e.g. RMC usage, DDD usage) and enemy damage whether he's numerically busted, much like Yunli or Blade. He scales off enemy damage, not just frequency like Yunli/Blade, so he's not fully powercreeping either. He's not super busted at current because his personal damage values are tied to a healer, especially at E1, so sustainless isn't as numerically effective on him as others (but due to Death's Door and Taunt on Ult, he enables sustainless, which is why you see 1.3m+ hits in some showcases). On the flipside, once we get a real ST healer that can top off his HP to cap every turn that can also buff him like all modern sustains do, we'll be seeing more Godslayers which scales him further. A ton of his scaling is locked behind E1, quite frankly - he's the first carry to actually scale off healing. He doesn't have dedicated supports either, which is what people are wary of. Aglaea makes full use of RMC, Sunday and Robin. Mydei doesn't make full use of Sunday buffs, doesn't scale with Robin, doesn't Ult or AoE enough to enable or scale off Tribbie FUA like Hertwo, doesn't drive Jade very well, and doesn't feed RMC like Aglaea or Hertwo. RM's delay has anti synergy and favours multi DPS, and Sparkle doesn't fully support him either (she typically doesn't fully support anyone in the current roster except Qingque - slow Quantum, Crit + ATK-scaling units that care about turns). He uses at most 70-80%% of existing supports' potential, while Hertwo and Aglaea typically get pretty close to 95% utilisation. Dude is running on leftovers and is still keeping up with 3 unspecialised slots, which is why there is speculation he might be overtuned, and why you're also seeing showcases when he's not even close. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/CryoStrange avatar CryoStrange • 3h ago Oh Aglaea bits, you must be 'ungry You are kind of exaggerating Mydei team problem. He utilizes Sunday kit fully he needs energy for taunt and gets damage bonus and crit damage. Agalea buffs can wore out because Sunday cant keep up. Using a healer is a buff in Mydei because he needs to lose HP to gain meter Gallagher/Loucha gives very high healing to a single target. His teams are very much complete just lacking maybe one other support or sub dps character. Unless yoi want Jiaqiu type all 3 teammates for him that is different story. every character dreams to get Jiaqui type teammates. So yeah he just needs buffs because I doubt they will make anything tailor made for him because he is not Herta. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share ArtemisTheHarbinger • 3h ago He only uses half of Sunday's buffs. That's far from optimal. The one who will benefit from all of Sunday's kit is Castorice, because she's Remembrance. Mydei would need an HP dedicated support. Something like Furina. But you are right in that he will probably not receive it, because hoyo doesn't care. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 1 more reply u/UnlikelyBarracuda751 avatar UnlikelyBarracuda751 • 5h ago This boss is a bad matchup for him while being designed for Aglaea (restores energy per hit and Aglaea attacks very frequently) and Herta (shared HP). That being said, he's not as good as Aglaea in 3-target scenarios. Not because his actual numbers are low, but because 1) in this game it's better to do smaller but frequent hits instead of infrequent and big nukes 2) forced auto and 3) all his main supports boost him around the same ballpark at E0S0, suggesting none of them fit him that well. But waiting for better fitting supports in this game is a dice roll. I also stand by that he's a fair bit better than current Herta in 3-target scenarios while being worse against her good matchups. Even Aglaea can't beat Herta at this boss. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share takutekato OP • 5h ago • Edited 5h ago Maybe the other 0-cycle showcases have better investments and againts different bosses. In this Mydei and Agleae's teams are only 4 costs, THerta's is 3 costs. A quick search from this sub shows that existing 0-cycle clears are either sustainless or higher limited entities. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/Prior_Supermarket265 avatar Prior_Supermarket265 • 5h ago The 3.1 MoC buff is so major for him, he is perfectly fine in general but like top 5 (idk maybe 4) dps so far. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share u/GGABueno avatar GGABueno • 3h ago Top 5 at release is not very fine. Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share 2 more replies 4 more replies Red_Trickster • 4h ago Mydei needs MORE buffs, I don't accept that he doesn't do it in 1-2 cycles with MoC and fuck anyone who disagrees Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Giganteblu • 5h ago damn i need to get another bucket of pop corn Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Mistborn7v • 2h ago Just buff him more already!!!!!!!!! Upvote Vote Downvote Reply reply Award Share Share Community Info Section r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks Join HonkaiStarRail_leaks A place to share and discuss news, Madam Herta, leaks, and theories relating to the

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1iakg20/modified_30_moc_mydei_e0s1_rtb_e6_sunday_e0/

結果的には

- Agleae team: 2 cycles

- Mydei team: 3 cycles

- The Herta team: 2 cycles

って感じらしい。

3.0からエンドコンテンツのHPが大幅に強化され敵も強くなっているので、
誰を選んで行くか迷いどころかなと。

まずはアグライアの評価（Tier）がどうなるか気になるかな。

ただ、モーディスも弱くないと思うし、3.1のMoCだけを見ると
モーディスを取るのも悪くないとは思う。

ただ、長い目で見るとトリビーが必須キャラになりそうな気もする。